(08-16-2015 11:04 PM)BigNasty Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry I thought it was funny as hell. Cop had no right to pull him over just for flipping him the bird. Had a cop pull me and a buddy over one time cause he THOUGHT we were going to race. When we pulled away from the light normally he STILL pulled us over and told us that. Then proceeded to check our paperwork, yes we were let go doesn't change the fact he had no probable cause
Working in the industry (sort of) and dealing with metro on a nearly daily basis, I can say that he truthfully did not pull you over because he thought you were gonna race... he may have said that, but keep in mind that his job is not only to catch bad guys and law breakers, but to also create a presence and try to prevent crimes. I know this seems like with that justification, he did have no real probably cause, but guess what, he didn't... at all. there is nothing illegal about making a traffic stop because technically he is not detaining you at that point, he is simply making contact.
That being said, you have 2 options in a situation like that. One would be to do exactly as you did and furnish papers upon request. This is going to be the lowest drama experience, as if you have nothing to hide, you will be on your way shortly, no harm, no foul, sans a bit of an inconvenience. Option 2 is simply to state, right away and in a respectful manner, that you have not committed any crime and ask if you are being detained or if you are free to go. If it is a good cop, 99 times out of 100, the cop will immediately say "have a good day" and you are on your way because he knows he has nothing to detain you on.
NOW, the problem comes up when you throw an attitude at the cop right off the bat, then they will usually do everything they legally can to make the stop as miserable as possible for you. This is also usually a red flag to them that you may have something to hide so he will do all legal things (check papers and whatnot) in hopes of uncovering something that he can nail you on.
You have to remember that these guys deal with assholes all day every day. You cant blame them for being dicks sometimes. everyone eventually gets that way if you are treated like shit all the time.
Flipping a cop off like that, while not illegal, is just stupid and disrespectful. I feel that anyone that treats cops like that should be put on a list of people that the cops WONT come to help when they NEED it. Why should they (other than you pay taxes that pays their salary) - just look at it from a human nature stand point.
I dont know. You ask me, the guy in that video is a d-bag and deserves to be pulled over.
Its funny, I dont disrespect cops, I dont flip them off, I am polite when I have been contacted and guess what? I dont get pulled over for stupid shit. LOL
And just so I stay on topic of the thread... no i dont MotoVLog. Sorry.
- Justin